Monday, November 14, 2016

Video Magazine Exhibit and Much More

It's been a long time since we've had an article exhibit here at The Museum, so I went ahead and scanned an old magazine for your perusal. (As far as I know this magazine falls under the public domain, and if not, it's presented entirely in fair use.)


Video Magazine, May 1984.
(Yes, VCRs are so easy to work on, even your stupid, unattractive and elderly mother-in-law can fix them.)






Video Magazine was a periodical that was fairly hard to find on newsstands in the US. From its inception, it was sold mainly in Video equipment & rental stores, and later in some chain record stores. I don't recall seeing it past around 89 or so. The last issue my family had featured Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade on the cover, and I don't know how long they kept going after that.





For a non-genre magazine, the articles are fairly in-depth. It's the only real magazine outside of TV Guide that focused heavily on the Epic/Saga cuts.




Interesting note about the scene with Vito refusing the grocer's box of food. It was indeed cut out of the disastrous first screening. In fact most of that section of Vito's backstory was re-edited right up until the national release. (For more about the frantic editing, check the bonus article included at the end of this exhibit.)

The order of events shown in the first TV Saga is how it was edited in the original screening. People reacted negatively to the frequent cuts between Michael's story and Vito's story. Coppola didn't realize that this is the reason the audience reacted negatively; he thought it had more to do with the order of Vito's story. So he restructured it into what appeared in the theatrical cut of Part II.

When time came for the TV edit, Coppola went back to the original order of events from the first preview screening. (Vito gives her the pear earlier; Vito is fired, the grocer offers him a care basket, then Vito and his wife have a tense dinner which is interrupted by Clemenza's gun problem.) This was the way it was written in all existing screenplays, treatments, drafts and scripts and makes the most sense linearly.

Fun fact: The scene with Vito refusing the care package, when added to the nationwide theatrical release, was actually the wrong take. (You can see that some of the dialogue doesn't synch up.) That take was substituted for the correct take for the TV Saga.




Fun Fact #2: The scene with Kay and Michael on the bed at the hotel was voted unanimously as the worst scene in Part 1 and Part 2 by every member of this project. 




Item 15: I agree with the author that the re-sequencing of the Klingman dialogue is fixed in the Epic. It was an anachronistic gaffe caused by rushed editing. 





I realize that I may not be in the majority, but I believe that as a sustained narrative, The Godfather works best chronologically. I agree with George Lucas's original assessment of Part II: "Francis, you have two films. Throw one out, or make two movies." Think of how different the world would have been if Coppola would have gone with Plan A?

What was "Plan A" you ask? Godfather Part II, as we know it today, is actually Plan D. Briefly, here's the first three ideas presented by Coppola during filming:





PLAN A:


Part II would have actually been two separate movies- The Godfather Part II and The Death of Michael Corleone. This version of Part II would have focused entirely on Vito's story, running well into the 1930s. De Niro put on 40 pounds to play this older Vito, and was publicly annoyed that it was all for nothing, as those scenes didn't make the final cut. A few stills exist, most notably the cover for Peter Biskind's Godfather Companion:





Surprisingly, Paramount loved the idea, but Coppola was apprehensive. (If you're curious to how this would have played out, Ed Falco's novel The Family Corleone was based on this storyline.) Coppola  wanted the movies to be more directly linked. In fact, he wanted the entire saga to be a whole, which brings us to:


Plan B- Mario Puzo's The Godfather Saga


After Coppola confirmed that he would be onboard for Part II, but before the first treatment had been finalized, he told Action magazine that this wasn't going to be your typical, everyday Hollywood sequel. He wanted to restore some of the cut scenes from Part 1, and bookend that film with the two stories of young Vito and older Michael. The "sequel" would be one long, continuous narrative very similar to what ended up as the TV Saga. Quote:

"The movie isn't a sequel in the Hollywood sense of the word. They're two distinct pieces that are formed together to make one story. They should be told together. I want the [Saga] to be an event... like, you have to call out sick and take the day off because you know you're going to be sitting in the theater for 8 hours!"


 Understandably, Paramount nixed that idea immediately. His grand restructuring would have to wait a few years.



Plan C- The Loooooong Version


 This was the rough cut, running anywhere between 5 and 6 hours depending upon the source.¹ What is known is that these were two, nearly three hour long films separated by an intermission. The first half chronicled Vito's rise, and the second half focused on Michael's demise.

By all accounts, Coppola was pleased with this structure. He knew it was long and would need to be trimmed, but overall felt comfortable with the two storylines occupying the same film. But by now he had begun toying with the idea of intersecting, parallel narratives.


 ¹Reports range from 5 hours to 6 hours as a running time for the Rough Cut. 
  • Fred Roos, Gordon Willis, and Robert De Niro state that the cut was six hours long.
  • Robert Evans stated that the Rough Cut was 8 hours long. (I believe that he's thinking of the second assembly cut, described below by Barry Malkin.)
  • Barry Malkin said that approximately 16 hours of footage was assembled, and roughly half of that was excised into a linear structure. Approximately 2.5 hours was cut from that 8 hours, which would put the rough cut around 5.5 hours.
  • Coppola has been quoted variously as saying it was 5 hours, or 5.5 hours long. 
  • I believe that it was most likely 5.5 hours long, and with the intermission, exit music and entrĂ© act added, it would have been fairly close to six hours.


Plan D- First Director's Cut/Test Screen Cut 


 This cut was test screened in San Francisco's Roxie Theater two months before its release. And it bombed.  It was perhaps the most disastrous test screening of a future screen classic aside from Star Wars.²

Chief criticisms were the length, the constant back and forth between the dual narratives, and the loss of the 'hopeful' enthusiasm from Part I.  While the loss of 'hopeful' enthusiasm was exactly what Coppola intended, he did take the length and crosscutting into account and restructured it accordingly. 

Instead of flashing back between stories every 10-15 minutes, Coppola instead decided to do so a handful of times. He excised the intermission, dropped the entré act, and cut a further 45 minutes. This version went on to become the final director's cut, which is what the rest of the world saw when they packed into moviehouses across the globe.



 
 
² George Lucas attended this screening of Part II and told Coppola that this narrative would never work and that he needed to scrap half the movie. Later, when Coppola attended the test screening of Star Wars, he told Lucas that he needed to cut down on the amount of outerspace dogfights and "corny robot crap."

Another trivia item that some people don't know: Coppola opted to direct The Conversation in lieu of Godfather Part II and nominated either George Lucas or Martin Scorcese to direct it in his place. (Lucas served as assistant on the first Godfather and actually directed and edited the "newspaper headline" montage.) On the flip side, when 20th Century Fox balked at the idea of Lucas directing his own script for Star Wars, he nominated Coppola to produce and direct it. It makes you wonder what either film would have been like without their respective directors...
   







The price of some of that video equipment was amazing. $500 bucks for a video processor would be over a grand in today's money. And while it may have been a good unit, it doesn't even come close to what you can achieve in the most basic video editing software today.





Cable TV showing original programming? It'll never happen.





Just for fun, I figured I'd show this ad from the back of the magazine that has The Complete Epic selling for 179.00. That would be over 400 dollars in today's money.

Overall it's an interesting issue. If anyone my age that remembers the early days of home video will recall, it's the overabundance of pornography in mainstream periodicals. This magazine has page after page of advertising for Adult movies. It's estimated that over half of all VHS rentals and sales were specifically for porn. By today's standards, it's pretty weird to see a full page ad for tape sales with the top half devoted to Disney movies and the bottom half devoted to Swedish Erotica.

In modern mags, you may see a small advert for Adam and Eve or Penthouse.com in the back of the issue, or a very generic listing for 'marital aids' or something, but nothing like the late 70s to mid 80s. I guess the internet killed the need to advertise that stuff.


Bonus Article: New York Magazine November 1974



This was a quick writeup concerning the frantic post-test screening editing that was going on with Part II. Coppola has gone on record as saying that he was still editing the film just minutes before it printed and shipped to theaters.




It's interesting that at the time, his next project was going to be Tucker starring Marlon Brando. What the article didn't mention was the top-secret (at the time) finagling of the Apocalypse Now project. In 1969 Coppola had purchased the screen rights to Heart of Darkness, the novella by Joseph Conrad. He hired John Milius to write the film treatment for it, with future Jaws director Steven Spielberg directing. Milius's screenplay was much different than what Spielberg had imagined the film to be, and so dropped out early on, but not before suggesting George Lucas for the job based on the 'detached, sterile' approach he took toward the subject matter in his experimental short THX 1138.


Spielberg, Milius and Lucas at the Universal Studios backlot.


Coppola paid Milius $15,000 to write the screenplay with the promise of an additional $10,000 for a rewrite if Warner Brothers or Universal greenlit it. When the studios backed out, Coppola rewrote it himself. The plan at the time was that he would produce and finance it, and George Lucas would direct, or co-direct with John Milius. After release, he and George Lucas would change places with Tucker, with Coppola directing and Lucas producing.




What happened next is disputed by the involved parties. What is known is that Lucas wanted to film it in black and white 16mm- a throwback, arthouse-take on the old newsreels of the WWII era. Coppola thought it was a good idea, but this is what reportedly caused all of the major studios to pass on the film. Coppola was undeterred, and began pumping his own money into the project. Steve McQueen and Burt Lancaster were attached early on. And then one by one, everyone dropped out of the project, leaving just Coppola alone holding the reigns.


George Lucas has said that he dropped out of the project because he felt that his take on the film would have been 'box office poison' and he didn't want to further bankrupt Coppola and American Zoetrope. Coppola didn't see it that way. He felt that George, somewhat selfishly, decided to pursue The Star Wars with Fox and so reneged on his agreement to direct Apocalypse. This of course led to the Tucker project gathering dust for the next 12 years as the two men didn't speak to each in the meantime.

Coppola's suspicions (that Lucas cared more about Star Wars than Apocalypse) were confirmed, at least in his mind, when he viewed the rough cut of Star Wars with a group of fellow directors, among them Spielberg, Milius, Brian De Palma, Martin Scorcese and Paul Schrader. All of the old newsreel footage of WW1 and WWWII fighter pilots engaged in aerial dogfights (which Lucas said he wanted to mimic for Apocalypse) were shown in place of the special effects shots that would later astound audiences in the finished film. Coppola took it personally, and felt insulted.After he and the other viewers (save for Spielberg) told Lucas that his film was going to bomb, Coppola and Lucas spent the next decade taking polite jabs at each other in the press.


Hollywood's Raging Bulls circa 1998: Spielberg (left), Scorcese, Milius, Lucas and Coppola.


Their friendship was renewed when Lucas heard about Coppola's bankruptcy. In order to save Coppola from losing his house and vineyard, Lucas offered to buy the property from Coppola and sell it back to him when he got back on his feet. The bromance was rekindled and within a couple of years, the two released Tucker: A Man and His Dreams to mixed, but generally favorable reception. Brando, of course, was so out of shape and had caused Coppola infinite stress on Apocalypse that he was not asked to portray the title character, the role instead going to Lucas's first choice, Jeff Bridges.


**Special Request from the Godfather Museum** 


The most-viewed article in this blog is A Brief History of the Chronological Cuts. Since the writing of that article, and the announcement of our fanedit preservation project, a number of other fanedits have come about. I'd like to update that article with a list of the different fanedits and a general description of them. Since I'm up to my neck in stuff to watch, I've not personally seen any of these other edits such as the Hal9000 version. If our readers could get a list going in the comments section I'll be happy to update that article.



'Til Next Time----

GFM





23 comments:

  1. Interesting. When I get time I will post comments about different fanedits

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  2. I would actually like to see an update of the Sources page.
    http://godfathermuseum.blogspot.com/2015/03/sources.html?m=1

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    1. It's in the works. I'm not sure what else, in addition to what was listed, has been used since then but I'm consulting Doug to get track of the other sources.

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  4. I doubt people are gonna comment anymore in here. Everyone pretty much gave up on this project/website. Until this thing comes out, it will be pretty quiet/mostly dead in here.

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    1. I hear what you're saying, but the page views are still pretty much as high as they've been. I know that there have been other fanedits that have come out, as well as the HBO showing, and that has satisfied many of us for the most part who were waiting for this one.

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  5. I still check in every other day or so. Obviously I would love to see this project released but honestly, the information here is so interesting to read that as long as there are semi-regular articles being posted, I'll still be checking in. Keep up the good work!

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    1. Thanks Dan! I'm still working on it. There's a lot to absorb, and a lot of changes I'm making to it in terms of quality.

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    2. yes but please update it more so that we know our serious about this. most projects of this type just die

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  6. I posted a Sun Tzu interpretation of the death of Apollonia on my blog here http://civilizedporn.blogspot.com/2016/12/the-death-of-apollonia-from-godfather.html

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  7. I posted a short analysis of Michael disowning Fredo on my blog here http://civilizedporn.blogspot.com/2016/12/michael-corleone-disowns-fredo-in.html

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  8. Hollywood's Raging Bulls circa 1998 photo-- That's Brian De Palma, not John Milius

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  9. any update on release of this cut? or can someone recommend a version that is the most complete. he best one i found is still a few minutes short- missing the intro to the butchers story,the shot of the girl up the stairs,the dialogue after the phone booth,Kay lighting the candles,the tracking shot of Michael after the canoles,the tracking shot of the house in the fishes scene,and a few other short few seconds i forgot about but i know i have seen before. also is there one that adds in Michael's alternate 7 minute flashback from the tv version of part 3?

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  10. How can you be so shameless? So many people has awaited your release for YEARS! And now what we have? Silense. Very good.

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  11. Don't comment on here. Let this place rot. It's obvious this thing is never coming out. Let's not comment. Let it die.

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  12. Considering he's doing this for free you people should show more respect. So what if it's taking a long time? It is a huge project and is very costly. Plus he has his own life with work and such. When this comes out it will be worth the wait

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  13. We could at least get an update on how the project has been doing over the past 8 months.

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  14. Hey, I love the passion you have for the project. Hopefully it will be out soon. I've been anxiously waiting a long time for your project and can't even fathom what the results will look like.

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  15. The Godfather Parts I&II will be shown on AMC on August 23. I'd set my DVR just in case there's any surprise's.

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  16. Hey man, I've seen some of the comments and I can see that some feel like they are entitled to your movie. I can say that I will happily wait until your masterpiece comes out. I know how these things go and I really appreciate the hard work your doing. Keep up the good work and hopefully soon we will see the Godfather Extended cut to end all cuts.

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  17. Any update on this i really want to watch this it been 1 years since news
    I really appreciate your hard work but can we can any update on the progress
    I would really like to see the complete version
    Also can you post the latest version of the you have on torrenting site like kickass or piratebay

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